1,170, This story has been shared 869 times. Move over, "Armageddon." Where might Fellowes have dreamed up such a dramatic moment of such gargantuan proportions? Fortunately, Cora stepped in and shut it down before he could get anywhere near Jane's pantaloons. Not one character who knew of the incident ever suspected or questioned Thomas. The unknown life she might share with Matthew was scary and she wasnt sure she was willing to take that risk. He agreed to succeed Charles Carson on New Year's Eve, 1925, but resigns from his position in 1928 in order to move to California with film star Guy Dexter. Perhaps at that point she still saw him as the heir and not exactly Matthew yet. Downton may be a soap opera, but with this storyline, it asked its audience to reckon with how powerless and vulnerable most women of the period were. Enter your password to log in. Get involved in exciting, inspiring conversations. RELATED: Downton Abbey: Why the Show Killed Dan Stevens' Matthew Crawley Anna or her mother at least should have asked and later so should have Sir Richard. Kemal will stay silent if later on, after everybody is in bed, Thomas will lead Kemal through the hallways in the vast house, to Lady Mary's bedroom. Thomas led Pamuk to Marys room. Reader #1 Q1. Others have addressed why she hasnt defended herself, so I will just add that perhaps she was actually more focused on having lost Pamuk than on her reputation. He banished his old dance partner, Charles Grigg, from his life and threw away his lettersunderstandable, considering that his former love, Alice Neal, chose Grigg over him. "One day, one of them [the ladies] was sleeping. In spite of her selfishness and pride, and desire to always be in control of any relationship, she did value and respect Matthew enough to know that she would have to come clean with him about her night with Pamuk,, to allow him to withdraw his offer of marriage, if he chose. Violet confronts Cora Crawley. Timeline | Downton Abbey Wiki | Fandom This blog is a personal blog written and edited by me and my team. He is best known for portraying Tobias "Four" Eaton in The Divergent Series film trilogy. All times AEDT (GMT +11). They got away with it. Did he ever come to check this out? He was too meh to be more than a fling, but even we have to admit that the discreet adjoining doors at the Grand Hotel in Liverpool were kind of hot. She did say that she is compelled to not marry each man her family wants for her. 1) She did not invite him. This was back in the 1920's, the operation seemed small enough that anesthesia was not needed, and it required a period of abstinence. Michelle Dockery as Lady Mary in 'Downton Abbey'. Copyright Statement: Jane Austen's World blog, 2009-2022. And yes; if she had told him then Matthew would probably have acted very differently and it would not have had a good outcome, because Matthew was a bit of a prick, yes. oof, I totally respectfully disagree about it not being rape. Wordle today: Here's the answer, hints for March 4, Daters have a 'reality gap' about gender equality, Bumble says, Amazon halts Virginia HQ construction. and yes, I think that Mr. Pamuks death had a profound impact on her if her first sexual experience was a rape and a death, it seems understandable if she then had to deal with a period of frigidity and avoidance of sex. Mary jilts her fianc, Sir Richard Carlisle, despite his threat to publish . Here are all the major losses the show has suffered over six seasons, not counting the two heirs to the Downton estate who perished on the Titanic in the very first episode. 2) It was clearly shown that Mr. Pamuk was led to Lady Marys chamber by Thomas the footman late at night. Thomas Barrow | Downton Abbey Wiki | Fandom Her mother questioned whether that was necessary, but Mary insisted that she had to tell him before she accepted his proposal! James will not reprise his role for the series' second and third seasons. Thomas made a move on Pamuk as he was dressing him (Thomas had been assigned to Pamuk as his valet since Pamuks valet had stayed in London because he didnt speak English) and Pamuk blackmailed Thomas, saying he wouldnt report the incident if Thomas would agree to help him later when he might have need of someone who knows the layout of the house. The neglected tombstone found in an overgrown burial ground. http://www.amazon.com/The-Unofficial-Downton-Abbey-Cookbook/dp/1440538913/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351028313&sr=8-1&keywords=Downton+Abbey+Cookbook. 869, This story has been shared 782 times. The Mr Pamuk Scandal in 5 Minutes (Theo James) | Recap | Downton Abbey Downton Abbey 179K subscribers Subscribe 17K views 1 month ago #DowntonAbbey A Recap of the scandal to end all. In some instances, links will be removed from comments as well. [33] He has since been a supporter of refugees' rights and called for greater humanitarian aid for people displaced by the Syrian Civil War. This scene has been on my mind a lot as I would also interpret the what takes place as a rape, very reminiscent of what happens to Uma Thurman in Dangerous Liasons. We laugh, but young girls have these fears. Watch It On: Amazon Prime Instant Video. Thomas Advances On Mr. Pamuk | Downton Abbey - YouTube "This woman [next door] who was a blameless matron, she knew that if this story got out, they would all be tarred by it, it would be all round London by Monday," he continued. In 2011, James starred in the short-lived horror series Bedlam, playing the lead role of Jed Harper. Just before they enter the bedroom, Daisy, already up very early to light the fires, witnesses Mary, Anna and Cora carrying Kemal's dead body. Anna realizes that Kemal's body is too heavy to carry back to his room in the bachelor's corridor, on the other side of the house. [28] They divide their time between Venice Beach, California and North London. Downton Abbey's Lady Mary is pregnant. [6] He has two older brothers and two older sisters. How did Edith find out about Pamuk? - idswater.com And whomever suggested anal sex has got to be kidding. Does Mary tells Matthew about Pamuk? Sarah H- Mary did agree. The potential result of screaming was potentially worse, if you can imagine, than succumbing to his wishes and hoping it would always be kept quiet. The Hollywood Reporter's Angie Han described James's portrayal of the titular time traveler "dashing and a little sardonic" and highlighted his and co-star Rose Leslie's "inability to generate any real sparks between them". Pre-Downton, this icon of English reserve and staunch defender of propriety sang and danced on stage as part of a traveling theater group called the "Cheerful Charlies." "This group of women led by a debutante holding a candle smuggled this guy back to his bed. Now as to why didnt she defend herself: because even having a man in her bedroom was a huge schandal that would ruin her forever. Because women were inferior to men. During the podcast episode, Fellowes tells host Jacqueline Coley, "When Mary pulls her mother in and says Mr Pamuk is dead, that was a real story.". Mr. Pamuk had earlier rebuffed Thomas advances but blackmailed Thomas that he would not say anything (which would result in Thomas getting sacked) if he would do something for him (Mr. Pamuk). Series creator Julian Fellowes insisted the dog's death had nothing to do with the unfortunate modern connotations of her name. 1. With "Downton Abbey" coming to an end on Sunday after six extremely entertaining, occasionally absurd and frequently very moving seasons, we decided to take a look back at the many, many . [9][10], In 2010, James made his television debut in two episodes of A Passionate Woman. 782, This story has been shared 669 times. When you come home, and I can hold you once again, I'm not sure I will ever be able to let you go. Evelyn Napier is bringing an unexpected guest: a Turkish diplomat named Kemal Pamuk (Divergents Theo James). 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We choose clothes and pay calls and work for charity and do the season, but really were stuck in a waiting room until we marry. has been told what to do with her life since she was a little girl. In a classic Downton war-time martyr moment, Daisy opts to marry the injured footman she never really fancied in a deathbed ceremony, just so that he won't have to go to the grave alone. Those lines were removed leading many to believe they didn't really do it or that they were doing anal (to Fellowes's annoyance). "She sat there for a bit with this dead body. I think that he meant that he wouldnt tell anyone so she would still be a virgin to society and to her future husband. Your Privacy Choices: Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads. Kemal however offers Thomas a deal. Charlie, a good friend of Lady Mary's husband Henry, died in a car crash while competing in a race -- which probably only strengthened Lady Mary's dislike for fast driving. I think he said You can still be a virgin for your husband and meant with a little imagination. Died off Prome, the 7th October 1852, while in command of the Naval Expedition on the river Irrawady against the Burmese Forces, aged 73 years.. 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Stephen Bear, who starred in several seasons of reality TV shows aired in Australia, has been jailed for 21 months for sharing a sex tape. Carlisle made his money as a powerful and ruthless newspaper proprietor. I think Lady Mary really wanted the encounter- she finds Pamuk so fascinating and handsome and she desires him, so that even though she is shocked at first she gives in very easily. I agree, Martha. Evelyn Napier is given the job to look after Kemal until the start of the conference, as Turkey's support is deemed vital. Nifty cookbook to add to my collections. The online feature ends on March 6th. Pamuk said he would expose her if she didn't let him have his way with her, and she never tells anyone that. there are angels all around my bed. [8] He attended Aylesbury Grammar School and went on to earn his undergraduate degree in philosophy from the University of Nottingham. I have always thought Thomas put a drug in a drink or something its just too odd for someone of Pamuks young age to have died from a heart problem (not impossible obviously, just rare hes obviously had other experience with getting his heart racing and done fine). 'Downton Abbey' creator reveals Lady Mary's biggest scandal - Mashable We all felt for Tom after Sybil's shocking death, but it was kind of uncomfortable to see him fall into the hands of this master manipulator, even for a minute. After enjoying a day of fox hunting and an evening of sparkling conversation, Kemal Pamuk drops dead . I am glad to see this discussion. Gentle readers: Please feel free to post your comments and continue the conversation! She sat up before she passed and said to her daughters, do you see them? However, the Republic of Turkey was not established until 1923, and Istanbul was not officially renamed until after the start of WWI. They had a passage that was only for single women. Posted in Jane Austen's World, Masterpiece Classic, Popular culture | Tagged Downton Abbey, Lady Mary, Pamuk, PBS Masterpiece Classic | 30 Comments. "Downton Abbey" Episode #1.3 (TV Episode 2010) - IMDb. The Dowager Countess receives a letter informing her of Lady Mary's involvement in Mr. Pamuk's death. :) Then Pamuks intentions would be revealed and Thomas would be more the hero. Lady Mary was perhaps hesitant to accept Matthew even prior to the news of her Mothers pregnancy because she was still trying to process and understand all of her young feelings. Season 3 is being filmed as I type. There are several things we could take from his statement, including the fact that men will say whatever it takes! 1) The whole plot revolves around Lady Mary not defending herself so its a mystery. "Downton Abbey" Episode #1.3 (TV Episode 2010) - IMDb Perhaps readers can help answer these particulars. Was Pamuk murdered Downton Abbey? ownton Abbey creator Julian Fellowes says the storyline that saw a Turkish diplomat die in the bed of the earl's eldest daughter is based on fact. [19] James reprised the character in the sequel, The Divergent Series: Insurgent (2015). After a hot post-dinner make-out with Lady Mary, the dangerously handsome Turkish diplomat sneaks his way into her bedroom and forces himself on her, only to collapse in an apparent "heart attack."