These Russian landing ships are probably headed into the Black Sea for possible amphibious ops against Ukraine. Clearly they have something on him-most probably a secret video of Trump in bed with some Russian beauty! The Russians will only invade if they think they can get away with it and thicko Biden has given them the green light by saying he wont defend Ukraine. For use in the littoral, these also need to be smart weapons, able to accurately discriminate between types of ships not good to go sinking the wrong ships! As they have plenty of gear around Ukraine already it makes sense that at least some of the 6 are bound for Tartus. I know Sean but she would certainly Grind Vlad Putin down, Thats true enough, she grinds me down and I accept the science behind climate change!! And you dont have to sink a warship to take it out of the fight. Thats one of the reasons the JSM in particular is getting the BAe RF receiver. If you mean why T26 isnt fitted with ASROC, then that has been explained at length by many other commentators, and with very good reason. Russia has repeatedly denied that it is planning an invasion and instead demanded that NATO bar Ukraine from membership. The Ropucha-class landing ship can transport 10 main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 BTRs and 340 troops or 3 main battle tanks, 3 2S9 Nona-S, 5 MT-LBs, 4 army trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo. It could be solved if Ukraine finally implemented the Minsk Protocol it signed in 2015. JSM is also getting a version of BAes RF receiver, that is one of the primary sensors on the LRASM. Dissapointed in Macron, but cant say im surprised. Too many journalists sit at their desks googling news instead of getting off their backsides. You forgot Estonia which is British led! Commander Philip Harper, Severn's commanding officer, said: "In very challenging conditions with rough weather, Severn and several other British and allied ships have spent 20 days ensuring that Russian transiting warships remain under our watchful eyes.". At the end of the day it isnt going to be Britain v Russia, It will would be a NATO coalition. Hope you dont mind but Ive sent your comment to HQ, should be worth a raise. I think youre forgetting the Enhanced Forward Presence incl Canadians, Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Romainians, Slovaka, Czechs, Danes, Norgies, Albanians, Slovenes, Italians, Germans, French and may have missed one or two just saying like. NSM like Harpoon has a range that means it flies way over the horizon. He also works for the NHS. 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The German government even went so far as to brief journalists on Tuesday that cutting Russia off from international banking systems - the so-called 'nuclear option' of sanctions - was off the table, prompting angry denials from Washington. Browse an unrivalled portfolio of real-time and historical market data and insights from worldwide sources and experts. If this invasion happens it could well lead to the Chinese taking the opportunity to seize Taiwan, Iran will cause trouble in the Straits of Homuz and missile man could well take the opportunity to invade the South. I cant imagine we would though, as it could cause an incident in the channel. Russian warships filmed off coast of Britain as Royal Navy shadows The fighting units the Russians have deployed are professional soldiers not conscrips. Seizing southern Ukraine could cut Kyiv off from the coast and NATO's presence in the Black Sea, Melvin said, and could play well with Russian nationalists who see the area as the historic 'Novorossiya' lands or 'New Russia'. Sheer incompetence being the only major navy in the world to not have AsUW capability beyond a 4.5 pea shooter. The explosion inside an oxygen factory in the town of Bandar-e Mahshahr, south of Tehran. So easy to detect and evasion not impossible but also easy for CIWS to lock onto. Pity we dont have an enormous fleet of attack submarines to take out surface ships. kill chain is very complex to find, track, and then engage a warship at range that doesnt want to be shot at. Clearly I could be wrong on this. 36 minutes ago. When people toured the Viktor Yanukovych presidential palace, they were shocked at the grandeurRead more , Step back guys, the roots of this situation lie decades ago. You act like the US has nothing to prepare for or be cautious with and we can throw our weight around like Panama in 1989. Wow so they first entered service about the same time as the Type 21s ! To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. Access unmatched financial data, news and content in a highly-customised workflow experience on desktop, web and mobile. "By maintaining a visible and persistent presence, the Royal Navy ensures compliance with maritime law and deters malign activity to protect our nations interests. It was/would cost a big chunk of their budget to keep them operational and safe. We are were we are now and it should have never have got to this point. Pretty much what their President told them on the TV a couple of days ago. Next time round-Hillary Clinton vsRead more , Grandpa Biden has been engaged with the Pentagon bigwigs and was informed that Troops had already been pulled out of Vietnam .Now have your 40 winks and Cocoa, You cant blame Trump for this. Thanks for that. "The Royal Navy will always uphold international law and will not accept unlawful interference with innocent passage," Wallace said. "There is nothing unusual here: it is commonplace, but this time the ship is equipped with the latest hypersonic rocket system Zircon, which has no match. Meanwhile, in the Black Sea, the Kasimov antisubmarine ship 'successfully destroyed' air and sea targets by artillery fire in storm conditions, in a naval exercise. [However] when youre up against a determined opponent on the battlefield you have to go close and personal with your enemy. In such cluttered close waters, the 4.5 inch is probably the best weapon and only weapon you would need. He said Moscow could try to seize Ukrainian coastal areas on the Sea of Azov, creating a land bridge from the Russian city of Rostov through Donbass to Crimea, adding: 'That would put the Ukrainian government under a lot of pressure.'. At this distance we could also send a cutting out party/borders Im sure! Published: 8:51 ET, Jan 24 2023 A RUSSIAN warship armed with "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. That is the role of EFP troops in Poland and the Baltics show of support plus being a tripwire. He may lose power after a disastrous foreign adventure. But T31 isnt designed or intended to be a high end anti submarine Frigate, more a general purpose Frigate for more day to day operations ,anti piracy ect but capable enough to operate as part of a task group. 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All vessels travelling through the Bosphorus have to book passage where a Turkish pilot will board to insure safe passage, that includes men of war irrespective of nationality. Yes, have to agree, Gallipoli wasnt one of our finest ever ventures. The finger of suspicion immediately fell on Russia, although Ukrainian officials said critical infrastructure had not been targeted. Britain was unexpectedly embroiled in a diplomatic and military dispute with Russia on Wednesday after Royal Navy destroyer HMS Defender briefly sailed through territorial waters off the coast. Large cruise missile ship, the Marshal Ustinov, is one of at least three Russian navy ships that have been travelling back from the Mediterranean to their home port in the north of Russia. . The group of vessels, which remained in international. Type 23 frigate HMS Northumberland, based at Devonport, watched the movements of Udaloy-class destroyer the Vice-Admiral Kulakov as it sailed north-west of the Outer Hebrides. 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Would tend to agree with you Graham, to what end does Putin need to invade Ukraine? Yep scapegoating the most powerful National leader in the world because his big stupid plan is tell the Russians he wont militarily defend the Ukraine. And it will be forthcoming if I am wrong as I hope yours will be in reverse. But at various times four navy frigates were deployed. I doubt you can stand at all given the amount of hallucinogens you must be partaking. "Despite the increase in Russian activity, both on the surface and underwater, we are always ready to respond.". what about nato members bulgaria and romania? Since then its been regular movements in/out as the Russian military cycled as many as possible through Syria for the experience. Video shared by the US Coast Guard of a Russian ship near the Hawaiian Islands. Will it would be nice not to hear from that stroppy self-important brat anymore, I doubt your proposal will solve either of the threats we face; Russian aggression and climate-climate. US coast guard confirms Chinese and Russian warships off Alaska Look what we did to help France in WW1/2. So will Taiwan. But then we are talking about a Govt that is all style (and what style that is these days judging by the No.10 makeover) over remote substance and my do those Type 45s look smart and mean when they are out on the water especially when they have a dragon on the bow though Boris would probably add flock wallpaper as camaflage. The Kremlin quickly denied it was preparing a provocation. Coast Guard captain describes encounter with Chinese, Russian warships Putin is serious about sabre-rattling and applying miitary pressure. Its more difficult now given the numbers they have positioned. This is a US created crisis for US domestic reasons. On Monday, two C-17 transporters left the UK with 2,000 armour-piercing missile systems and soldiers to teach Ukraine's forces how to use them. The talks between the two diplomats came just a day after Russia unveiled plans for naval drills involving more than 140 warships and more than 60 aircraft, seen as a show of strength. Its a land grab and a hard lesson to NATO not to expand further east and Im afraid Ukraine who have been pro west since independence will pay the price. Russian warships have been pictured off the coast of Britain, en route to a suspected bolstering of the bombing campaign on the besieged Syrian city Aleppo.. Royal Navy vessels were closely . Correction. Just to keep us on our toes. Regime change? You must have access to a higher level of intel than me then. Russia is flexing its muscles in Britains back yard after ten warships arrived off the UK coast, the Chief of the Defence Staff has warned. NOTAMs will clear seaways fast, whilst the Falklands demonstrated the potency of AsUW back then. whats next a russian build up around the baltic straits?or the chinese off tiawan? A RUSSIAN warship armed with "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. I agree that its a risk, but one which they appear to be content to manage.. Very old school looking set up and equipment. Express. A longer-range version would also be welcome, Ive discussed the advantages short to medium term of NSM/JSM as well as Block V Tomahawk, particularly now that both Russia and China have joint interests in the North Atlantic. There is also a chance of that senario, Trouble is it is Trumps policies towards NATO ( even threatening to leave it) and distaste for Europe that has given the impetus to Putin to try this on. He sees weakness and disharmony and a split America with half the voters seeing thier Country as an island totally ignorant of what losing Europe would mean to the US position in the World. The military ship activated its AIS tracker on Wednesday at 10am, making it visible on real-time marine traffic tracker. Mind you cant complain about my pension, thank God for SERPS. U.S. officials have said Russia might attack Ukraine as early as this month when the ground will be harder, making it easier for tanks and other armour to move swiftly. Putin might be doing maskirovka. And even 2 or 3 Astute boats would give any fleet a serious headache. , updated It just shows the Ruskis have sleepers in the German armed forces. Royal Navy shadows nine Russian warships around the UK Iran if anything will be taking the opportunity to cause issues whilst US attention is firmly off the region. Published. Complex rules of engagement, and a pretty good chance you wont hit the intended target. The 4.5 has the range, accuracy and stopping power to deal with that kind of threat. They hit targets of a 'simulated enemy' in 'large-scale' exercises involving 500 military personnel. If this new cold war turns into something nasty, our T45 should have something better than Harpoon to engage enemy ships. And the balls to back up that posture with action if necessary. The phrase, and derivatives of the phrase . Id call it a battle group wholly equipped with obsolete AFVs. Should they choose to do so. This is possible by the combination of an imaging infrared (IIR) seeker and an onboard target database. A Ministry of Defence Spokesperson told me: As part of a unified response with our allies, the Royal Navy are monitoring the presence of Russian Ships as they transit through the English Channel. We all have opinions and may not always agree but nice to keep things civilised. In a meaningful way I mean putting forces on the ground and in the air. He then moves on to Berlin and will also hold talks with France and the UK. Lots of disinformation out there I dont understand how Trump takes no blame on either side of the Atlantic for signing the peace deal with the Taliban of all groups but Biden blamed on this board with no push back. Why would Poles help Ukrainians? Which it now seems were there to pick up gear to take out of the Baltic, not across it. Whats the Latin 50% because decimate is only 1 in 10 (10%). Critics fear it will increase Germany's reliance on Russian energy supplies. Tommo dont get carried away with what the media put out. HMS Lancaster joined Severn tracking Steregushchiy-class corvette Boikiy in the Channel and using its Wildcat helicopter to gather intelligence. Sean, Where is this wharf in Australia? Russian warships pass through English Channel - UK Defence Journal Biden??? RNs lack of AsUW is a gamble, otherwise why retain harpoon? Britain disputed the Russian version of events, with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab calling it "predictably inaccurate". 'Our strength depends on preserving our unity and that includes unity within Ukraine. He really wants to install a pro-Russian government in Kiev and to have independence for theRead more . Really poor analysis of a foreign state. We use your sign-up to provide content in ways you've consented to and to improve our understanding of you. KALIBR provides even modest platforms, such as corvettes, with significant offensive capability and, with the use of the land attack missile, all platforms have a significant ability to hold distant fixed ground targets at risk using conventional warheads. Unless of course you are a Putin oligarch;0). You guys need more ships me thinks . Once there they re establish the picture. It said: "The crew of the frigate 'Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov' conducted an air defense exercise in the Norwegian Sea. The Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships around the UK in the last two weeks alone - as Vladimir Putin increases his military presence in British waters. A capability upgrade as and when needed, might well happen. Similarly, the economic sanctions threatened by the US and the UK apply regardless of the scale of such action. I think you have hit the nail on the head. The guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov has been closely monitored by Nato navies on its maiden voyage armed with 6,670mph Zircon weapons. They took over from @kon_marine and will pass onto the @MarineNationale to continue the escort. The Armys flip ups on procurement have disengaged us from effective land ops in NATO context. Six Russian ships go past UK sparking fears they are going to Ukraine The US Coast Guard said Wednesday it is monitoring a Russian ship near Hawaii. In Moscow, Russia summoned Ambassador Deborah Bronnert for a reprimand over what it said were Britain's "dangerous" action in the Black Sea - while foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova accused London of "barefaced lies". Royal Navy ship off Crimea sparks diplomatic row between Russia and UK it was not to long ago that a few Russian soldiers died in a Russian barracks collapse, dont believe your own hype, and considering the Ukraine people are fighting for its independence, where they are stationed does not matter. The NATO Allied Maritime Command is "closely monitoring" Russian frigate Admiral Gorshkov, it said in a tweet with a photo of the warship. Thats an oversight. To all and intents you could be correct, but heres the rub he is a dictator in all but name. I wonder if we could see a real boost in our defence budget? True , I seem to remember one the OSINT Bunker pod cast guys saying if they start to move Air assets near the Ukraine border than probably the war is on , they have just done that. I think Irans aspirations in the region run much deeper than having mild cooperation with Russia. Protect their own borders through forward defence. Thanks Mark it just seems that the way that some outlets are reporting this ongoing story ,could in fact do more damage than good .As with some people on these threads ,that are goading eachother into what better weapons would do the most damage ,when the most destructive weapon is their Mouse/keyboard I know its just keyboard banter but my God theres some who really do want it too kick off. pic.twitter.com/NDzRz2MwqU, Ministry of Defence (@DefenceHQ) January 21, 2022. A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. Dont we have typhoons in the Balkans and Romania? The RN suffered badly in the Falklands through short sightedness and gaps in capabilities, and is sadly doomed to suffer again unless it takes the enemies and their capabilities and tactics seriously. Im for one are hoping cool heads prevail. Regardless of whatever you think about climate change, Greta whinberg ensures anyone over 25 gets irritated by her patronising childish ways. Our SSNs will be busy chasing their SSNs, and so each RN surface vessel should be capable of offensive action. There was a table top exercise done by the Navy back in the late 80s. We do need more ships and we will increase the number of frigates in the years to come. It looks like a scene from 1984. Akin to RAF doing away with Meteor, ASRAAM and sticking to Mauser. Reuters provides business, financial, national and international news to professionals via desktop terminals, the world's media organizations, industry events and directly to consumers. Im not sure to be honest. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. It requires us to hold their backyard at risk, whether thats in the Barents Sea, the High North, the Baltic or the Black Sea.. and When you consider bang for buck (price index), how long until Chinas defense budget alone will be equal? [1/6]British Royal Navy's Type 45 destroyer HMS Defender is docked in the Black Sea port of Odessa, Ukraine June 18, 2021. Bit long in the tooth-just like David, CR!(says he who is about to turn 73). Chechen warlord 'seriously ill' but refuses to call Russian doctors Most likely require a supplementary MoD budget? if 25% could actually get out of harbour before breaking down! Push buttons. Please review our, You need to be a subscriber to join the conversation. Russia warns Britain it will bomb ships next time | Reuters The only time there is a difference, is when a SM is deep, sprinting to a new position. Its perhaps worth considering that just supposing a few Russian armoured/infantry detachments had been deployed in and around Baghdad at important government and military sites as peacekeepers/observers or an actual hostile force, then would the 2003 invasion of Iraq have taken place? He told officials the UK stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the Baltic state a Nato ally. Lauren Lewis For Mailonline Putin has huge domestic discontent for which the Ukraine crisis is a distraction. They attack a completely different country miles from that one? Missile attacks would take advantage of Ukraine's weaker anti-missile defences. Locally known as the UK Minister of Defence. Their Intel also saying that they see no particular problem. While the oil tanker Kama turned on its AIS tracker, the frigate Admiral Gorchkov kept it off to stay under the radar. Assassinations of nuclear experts. Iran has been poking the region with a pointy stick for years now just to see what sort of rea tin they would get in return. The assessment said Moscow had deployed troops to the border on a 'permanent' basis and said the movement of 'stockpiles of ammunition, field hospitals and security services' to the hinterlands confirmed 'the preparation for offensive operations'. Or how much BS the kremlin comes up with, I think RT chat forum is your home you have many friends there Ivan lol. Helicopters for the littoral, Nuclear boats for larger vessels. Russian warship with 'unstoppable' 7,000mph hypersonic missiles 'sails The huge explosion at the military complex of Parchin, 30 kilometers southeast Tehran. Really Ivan ? ', After their meeting, State Department spokesman Ned Price warned the West was ready to impose 'crippling costs on Russias economy' if Putin chooses the path of 'further aggression.'. Surely he loses more than he gains. But the figures arent as large as claimed andRead more . 'Also, if he just occupies the eastern regions he will never be able to take back the whole of Ukraine because of the inevitable strengthening of Ukrainian forces in the remainder of the country in the aftermath. Dictators will at any cost hold onto power. You can read more here. Officialssaid last week that Russia had deployed agents trained in sabotage and urban warfare to launch a 'false-flag' attack on proxy forces, providing the pretext for invasion. Mr Putin is aware that as Ukraine does not belong to Nato, there will be no military response by Western states. (apologies for the convoluted English there!). Are Putins dirty secrets going to be revealed? Morning Sean. 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(NATO will do nothing without US Support) Alternatively, NATO could station aircraft in Ukraine bordering countries and work with the Ukrainian AF to secure Ukraine airspace again daring Putin to attack NATO Aircraft. The target selection technology provides NSM with a capacity for independent detection, recognition, and discrimination of targets at sea or on the coast. Just been channel hooping with various News outlets and what I can gather is that the Ukrainian public are just getting on normal Living , it would seem that the 24hr News channels are too blame for the So called tensions just like a certain plot for a James Bond movie with Johnathan Pryce as the TV mogul who wants too start a War for Ratings. Their fears of nuclear led them to basically willingly put puppet strings on a number of important decisions the country will have to make. They are believed to be somewhere around Yemen at the moment. In new training drills yesterday, three dozen Russian warplanes including Su-34 fighter-bombers, Su-25 attack aircraft and MiG-31 fighter-interceptors flew from airfields in Perm, Krasnoyarsk,. lol. But why would Russia deployed troops in Iraq 2003 to save Despot Sadams skin? If the US had done this early enough the Russians would have back off. On 19 July 2020, another explosion hit a power plant in Isfahan Province. Royal Navy shadows Russian ships after 'high activity' in Channel Initially other then a echo sounder suite for navigation which is a safety requirement, there are no current plans for a ASW fit on the T31s, for the reasons you have stated.